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They are period of inactivity, I just have a few things to say and open discussing.

Most sites with active forums will have up with a sticky at the top of the list with 'rules' or 'guidelines' to how you should use forums. This community is too free spirited and un-suppressed to have such a thing, and I'm not saying we should get one, but , I think our forums here are being used badly.

For example, the main problem I see here are questions as forums . I have known very little exceptions to making a forum based on a question being bad, the main problem being that people can only answer questions so many times before they are repeating themselves(usually once, if the person thinks about their reply). Taking into account people responding to others answers and discussions coming from that, such forums are still doomed to fail before long after everyone has answered several times. Actually, for the most part these forums end up being filled with off-topic arguments and stuff from people who want to answer in forums but have already answered the topic question. I know many other sites have a lot of questions in forums, but the main difference is, we have a Q&A section! (that is perfect for asking questions, getting answers, then fading away where it belongs) Only time I can think of a question working as a topic is if it's a variable question that changes a lot, such as "What do you think of the user above you?". Just looking at the first page of forums most of them are questions.

My point is, come on people we need some extended discussion material around here!

On the questions thing, if the question is about the site or a game then yes, it's not allowed. If it's a "fun-filled" thing like "What do you think about this?", I'd say it is allowed. Also agreed with the rules thing. I did this on the Fallout: New Vegas PC forums a little after it came out.
http://www.cheatsguru.com/pc/fallout_new_vegas/forum/9663/#p ost194855

I think the rules should be rapidly enforced harder. Nobody takes them seriously. Well more later, I have to go now...

Nice forums.
Nicole

On 12-06-2010 11:48 am 5-Year-Old wrote:
On the questions thing, if the question is about the site or a game then yes, it's not allowed. If it's a "fun-filled" thing like "What do you think about this?", I'd say it is allowed. Also agreed with the rules thing. I did this on the Fallout: New Vegas PC forums a little after it came out.
http://www.cheatsguru.com/pc/fallout_new_vegas/forum/9663/#p ost194855

I think the rules should be rapidly enforced harder. Nobody takes them seriously. Well more later, I have to go now...

If it's a "fun-filled" thing like "What do you think about this?", I'd say it is allowed.

Let's disregard the names of the two parts of the site. The Q&As section is for any kind of conversation, but mostly ones with a bland subject. Because new ones easily replace old ones, simple conversations are often held and will continue to be held. The Q&As are unable to bump threads, meaning it's perfect for conversations you don't want to stick around for forever.

The forums, however, are more suitable for these kinds of questions. These questions are to be answered, talked about, forgotten, and revived just as they are doing now. Those questions belong here as threads, although I don't like them being threads, either.

Again, completely disregard the names of the two sections. Think of them by just what they do and what they are for.

The names of the two sections basically define what they are for, you're just avoiding that for the purpose of your point.

Again , my point is, many questions here aren't discussion material and therefore how can they be classed as worth sticking around? If you could show me an example of a forum as a question that is longevity and good? Probably the best I can see without looking too hard is GleshClen's "Things that are dead to you", and that reached it's potential before 10 pages and it was off-topic half the time.

I mean sure they.. pass, as 5 minutes to spend your time once or twice. It's just of my opinion that forums should be extended discussions(e.g. this forum). I'm not sure if it's just me but people around here seem bored a lot, I think forums could at least try to stimulate some brain activity and be interesting then the community would benefit(more activity, less bored, etc).

On 12-06-2010 12:58 pm Custard wrote:

On 12-06-2010 11:48 am 5-Year-Old wrote:
On the questions thing, if the question is about the site or a game then yes, it's not allowed. If it's a "fun-filled" thing like "What do you think about this?", I'd say it is allowed. Also agreed with the rules thing. I did this on the Fallout: New Vegas PC forums a little after it came out.
http://www.cheatsguru.com/pc/fallout_new_vegas/forum/9663/#p ost194855

I think the rules should be rapidly enforced harder. Nobody takes them seriously. Well more later, I have to go now...

This isn't about what's allowed and what's not, since there are no rules and any 'rules' we could put up would only be guidelines. I'm sorry if I wasn't clear I am actually not-really-for the idea of forum rules here; mostly because most people find rules annoying just because they don't like the feeling of being told what to do sort of thing, also because it'd be better to improve forums quality around here willingly.

If it's a "fun-filled" thing like "What do you think about this?", I'd say it is allowed.

This is exactly the stuff I think should be kept out of the forums, didn't you read my post? it's forums off that idea that are clogging this place up with boring, dead threads(can you even deny that?). That's what Q&As are for! We all know that stands for "Questions and answers ", right?

Well, your two points contradict each-other, I'm not sure if you've noticed. In the first one you claim the site isn't a playground and needs order, yet in the second one you refer to the CGC forums as suitable for off-topic and 'whatever' stuff, pretty much claiming that anything goes.

I don't think the community is misbehaved where rules would help. I mean putting up a sticky saying "You can only post forums if they aren't crap and lame topic that will become inactive soon", seems a bit too controlling and out of our authority to say anyway.

Well, your point is rendered useless about the forums not being for the subject at hand, since that is the base of this forum. The Q&As are for such questions about the subject at hand. Such as "What is your favorite color?", "Who is your favorite singer?", etc.

Some question-forums have a bit more potential than others because they imply more, like "What's your favorite game and why?"(implying: "Discuss your favorite games") But most people don't seem to notice implications so much and just give the blunt version.


As for what I'd like to be done: People to make forums that make me want to come here and answer them!

On 12-06-2010 23:00 pm Custard wrote:
Well, your two points contradict each-other, I'm not sure if you've noticed. In the first one you claim the site isn't a playground and needs order, yet in the second one you refer to the CGC forums as suitable for off-topic and 'whatever' stuff, pretty much claiming that anything goes.

I don't think the community is misbehaved where rules would help. I mean putting up a sticky saying "You can only post forums if they aren't crap and lame topic that will become inactive soon", seems a bit too controlling and out of our authority to say anyway.

Well, your point is rendered useless about the forums not being for the subject at hand, since that is the base of this forum. The Q&As are for such questions about the subject at hand. Such as "What is your favorite color?", "Who is your favorite singer?", etc.

Some question-forums have a bit more potential than others because they imply more, like "What's your favorite game and why?"(implying: "Discuss your favorite games") But most people don't seem to notice implications so much and just give the blunt version.


As for what I'd like to be done: People to make forums that make me want to come here and answer them!

It is, actually. CG community is a community, not a game. Community = people. 'Favorite color' is on the topic of people. It's not like there's much to talk about the CG Community as a web page anyway. Except discussions like this one.

Um, well I can be hopeful, maybe just saying all this will inspire something. Though it might help if, say the moderators get a bit more enforceful about it..

On 12-06-2010 21:58 pm Custard wrote:
The names of the two sections basically define what they are for, you're just avoiding that for the purpose of your point.

On 12-07-2010 15:44 pm pyro777 wrote:

On 12-06-2010 21:58 pm Custard wrote:
The names of the two sections basically define what they are for, you're just avoiding that for the purpose of your point.

You're avoiding their uses for the purpose of your point. CheatsGuru does not follow the general guidelines for forums that most sites follow, and, as such, its forums do not serve the same purpose.

Yes, he told me this while we were having our post-intercourse chat.

Chase, CheatsGuru has two very different places for talking. I don't know any other site that has that.

Yes, what you're saying is true, but it's totally backwards to the point you wanted to make.

>Many other sites have just "forums" for people to talk in.
>Cheatsguru has forums and Q&As.

Your point is something like this makes questions suitable to be in the forums? I mean, where's the logic there?

Actually it's all kind of beside the point, since regardless of whether you want to think you're right or not, these forums are boring! Defend them all you want but you still can't be bothered to go out and reply to them. I can't remember the last time you answered to a topic question, you usually show up and say something off topic because pretty much nobody cares about other peoples answers in most question forums.

>These forums are boring!
>Let's remove something from them!

how this work

Seriously, if you remove these questions, what will be left? Just four or five serious threads, really. I admit the recent questions have been beyond retarded, but that's not enough proof that the questions wouldn't work.

I'm not saying to remove stuff, I want people to add more better forums less crap ones!

This is the best forums discussion I've had all year here, which isn't saying much.

That's because this is a debate or something.

Yes debate = brain activity = more interesting = Utopian forums

You are the cancer and aren't funny.

How about we debate on how Apple sucks and anyone who buys their products is a tool?

That's debatable?

What a silly question.
Of course it is.

Fair point.

Guys I have 5 iPads I'm cool right?