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blaziken1234
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may 30, 2009 11:22 amedited by Author | may 30, 2009 11:23 am
On 05-30-2009 00:37 am theTYTAN wrote: my question is why not ditch it now? as long as theyre strict with what characters they put in.
p.s. this is the internet not an english class
They're used so the Smash Bros. roster won't be filled with CRAP characters. If you're going to have a Smash Bros. game, you should choose the best of the best. Otherwise Smash Bros. might turn into one of those fighting games that have 200 characters, half of them having almost the exact same moveset.
Besides, would you really want someone like the ever so fantarded Master Chief to get in over the 20-year experienced, almost-always-has-been-there-for-Nintendo Megaman? I sure wouldn't.
My reason stands when I say that the 5 Golden Rules of Characters should be kept in mind.
Also, I know it's not English class. I just think that something as easy to remember as that should be used. Most the people who can't even remember that much of grammar to me seem like uneducated noobs.
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theTYTAN
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may 30, 2009 12:06 pmedited by Author | may 30, 2009 12:09 pm
On 05-30-2009 11:22 am blaziken1234 wrote:
On 05-30-2009 00:37 am theTYTAN wrote: my question is why not ditch it now? as long as theyre strict with what characters they put in.
p.s. this is the internet not an english class
They're used so the Smash Bros. roster won't be filled with CRAP characters. If you're going to have a Smash Bros. game, you should choose the best of the best. Otherwise Smash Bros. might turn into one of those fighting games that have 200 characters, half of them having almost the exact same moveset.
Besides, would you really want someone like the ever so fantarded Master Chief to get in over the 20-year experienced, almost-always-has-been-there-for-Nintendo Megaman? I sure wouldn't.
My reason stands when I say that the 5 Golden Rules of Characters should be kept in mind.
Also, I know it's not English class. I just think that something as easy to remember as that should be used. Most the people who can't even remember that much of grammar to me seem like uneducated noobs.
I actually agree the Master Chief shouldnt be in this game (and I'm a halo fan) not only because he wouldnt fit but because i think characters like Megaman(preferably MegamanX and Zero) deserve it more. Heck they could even create a segment in the adventure mode where you take down bosses from the megaman series.
P.S. youre right we should learn how to use better grammar (see what i did there) 
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Marvelfan211
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may 30, 2009 2:20 pm
All fighters have a stage to fight in, what will Megaman's be.
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theTYTAN
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may 30, 2009 5:11 pm
On 05-30-2009 14:20 pm Marvelfan211 wrote: All fighters have a stage to fight in, what will Megaman's be.
well if youve played alot of megaman games youve probably seen this in their games so here it is: there's a platform about the size of final destination and the platform rises up an elevator shaft with spikes on the side and as the elevator goes up this shaft booby traps come down towards you. hypothetical continuation: there is eventually a top and at the top it starts to scroll over there are the classic megaman boss doors you go through them and then theres a room.hypothetical situation(s)room: They could (A)put a boss in it (B)put nothing in it(1)open it up so you can be killed in it (2)leave it closed off so that you can't die (I)they could have you go through another set of boss doors (II)they could leave you in there. hypothetical continuation #2:if they do (A1I)(A2I)(B1I)(B2I) after the boss doors there would be another elevator this elevator would take you down (thered be boobie traps down this shaft to) at the bottom there would be another set of boss doors and(A1I)(A2I)(B1I)(B2I) would happen all over again but this time when you go through the second set of boss doors you'd go up the shaft (the procces repeats)or they could just do something like super mario bros but with a megaman stage
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theTYTAN
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may 30, 2009 7:01 pmedited by Author | may 31, 2009 1:08 am
zero moveset:
runspeed:slightly slower than captain falcon. attack speed:slightly faster than marth. height: a little taller than luigi. range:slightly less than marth (cept for the long range attacks) class:light swordsman/gunman.
AAAA...:continual energy sword sweeps similar to marths each does 9%
A up:upword sword sweep (slower than normal swipes will not hit people to the side) does 10%
A side:forward sword sweep(slower than normal swipes have longer range) does 10%
A down:downward kick
dash attack:dash attack 12% (similar to ikes A over)
midair attacks assuming you face left:
A up:upword sword slash 8%
A down:downward slash 8%
A left: wall kick 1% allows you to wall kick your way up walls
A right: wall kick (same deal opposite sides)
A:spins sword around himself twice similar to samus b up (but with a sword and it doesnt give him a boost)
upsmash:recoilrod 8% has very short range but insane knockback (similar to marth's upsmash)
oversmash:recoilrod 8% same deal except it stabs forward
downsmash: similar to links downsmsh
Grabs: grabs foe with chain rod pulls them in and hits them, slashes them into the air or slams them into the ground
B:charge up sword 5% if not charged 20% if charged will also add 1% damage to every sword attack. description: hold B for about 3 sec to charge then when its fully charged you can later press B again to quickly slam the sword down (deals massive knock back0.
B Up:flaming sword uppercut 15% fire damage (if on ground it will not boost zero up if in air it will)
B Over:Z buster fires shots similar to falcos blaster if not charged if charged it fires a small shot that deals 15%
B down:sheild boomerang a sheild that will absorb 3 projectiles the sheild can then be thrown like a boomerang which deals twice the damage of all th projectiles it absorbed (can hit more than one target)
FINAL SMASH (OMEGA):zero flies into the air and disapears then omega appears omega then pulls out his sword which starts floating in the air you then control the sword (can only move it right and left) and can stab it into the ground by pressing B Fake like youre about to stab by pressing A and slash upward by pressing the jump button each stab does 50% damage and each slash does 20% you can do 6 stabs before you dissapear and 6 slashes but you have a time limit.
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blaziken1234
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may 30, 2009 7:38 pm
No. It's not. Sorry. D:
And I think that Zero would make it as Megaman's Assist Trophy if he DOES make it.
Also, the stage idea should go in my stage forum... And not every character has it's own stage. Characters like Rob, Ganondorf, King Dedede, Wolf, Jigglypuff, and Marth never really got a stage to call their own in Brawl. Even though for a fact Megaman should get his own stage, I'm just saying not everyone does.
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austin9blake
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may 30, 2009 9:01 pmedited by Author | may 30, 2009 9:01 pm
You're not going to believe this. my cuzin wants agent 47 from Hitman in it.
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Marvelfan211
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may 30, 2009 9:57 pm
yeah, Hitman wasn't really a popular game.
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theTYTAN
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may 31, 2009 1:20 am
On 05-30-2009 19:38 pm blaziken1234 wrote: No. It's not. Sorry. D:
And I think that Zero would make it as Megaman's Assist Trophy if he DOES make it.
Also, the stage idea should go in my stage forum... And not every character has it's own stage. Characters like Rob, Ganondorf, King Dedede, Wolf, Jigglypuff, and Marth never really got a stage to call their own in Brawl. Even though for a fact Megaman should get his own stage, I'm just saying not everyone does.
Zero is a pivotal character in all the Megaman X Games, he is playable in 4-8 and Zero is the main character in Megaman Zero 1-4 and he is in a way the main character in MegamanZX and he makes an appearance as a playable character in MegamanZX advent all of these games have been on nintendo consoles ZERO HAS JUST AS MUCH OF A RIGHT TO BE IN SMASH BROS 4 AS MEGAMAN!!!!
p.s. give me a link to your forum and ill edit my post a little and put it on there
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blackfox168
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may 31, 2009 2:17 am
thats it! I got a list....
Roy (with a change or two)
Mewtwo (with a complete change)
Pichu (maybe... if it had better stats and didn't hurt itself)
Geno (from the game called Super Mario RPG)
Ridley
Masked Man (from the game called MOTHER 3)
Chibi-robo (if not a character, at least an ***ist Trophy)
Stafy (as a playable)
Lyn (as a playble)
Isaac (as a playable)
Dixie Kong or King K. Rool (one of them to make the amount of DK characters go up)
Bomberman (as one of the "other" party characters)
Megaman (as one of the "other" party characters)
Masked Link (Young Link but instead of being a link clone, he's similar to the Pokemon
Trainer in that he has 3 forms to choose from: Deku Link, Zora Link, or Goron Link)
Hoenn Pokemon Trainer (With an Pokemon Emerald Version Girl Trainer in the background and
3 pokemon: Mudkip, Grovyle, and Blaziken)
Vaati (from the Zelda series, since we need more baddies)
Waddle Dee (I know there are already waddle dees as King Dedede's side-b, but this one
would be special, since it has a blue belt tied to it's forehead and a parasol to use in
battle)
Krystal (from the starfox series, there's been a new starfox character every new smash
bros, right?)
Paper Mario (as a completely different character from Mario, I even thought of a moveset!
And hey, Toon Link made it, didn't he?)
Louie (as a kind of half clone of Olimar)
Total Amount of Characters: 60
I'll say more later... I'm tired of typing right now.
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PSIFlashOmega
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may 31, 2009 6:00 am
On 05-31-2009 01:20 am theTYTAN wrote:
On 05-30-2009 19:38 pm blaziken1234 wrote: No. It's not. Sorry. D:
And I think that Zero would make it as Megaman's Assist Trophy if he DOES make it.
Also, the stage idea should go in my stage forum... And not every character has it's own stage. Characters like Rob, Ganondorf, King Dedede, Wolf, Jigglypuff, and Marth never really got a stage to call their own in Brawl. Even though for a fact Megaman should get his own stage, I'm just saying not everyone does.
Zero is a pivotal character in all the Megaman X Games, he is playable in 4-8 and Zero is the main character in Megaman Zero 1-4 and he is in a way the main character in MegamanZX and he makes an appearance as a playable character in MegamanZX advent all of these games have been on nintendo consoles ZERO HAS JUST AS MUCH OF A RIGHT TO BE IN SMASH BROS 4 AS MEGAMAN!!!!
p.s. give me a link to your forum and ill edit my post a little and put it on there
Except he doesn't... by your logic, should Pac-Man get in, then all four ghosts deserve to be playable characters as well.
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blaziken1234
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may 31, 2009 11:34 am
On 05-31-2009 06:00 am PSIFlashOmega wrote:
On 05-31-2009 01:20 am theTYTAN wrote:
On 05-30-2009 19:38 pm blaziken1234 wrote: No. It's not. Sorry. D:
And I think that Zero would make it as Megaman's Assist Trophy if he DOES make it.
Also, the stage idea should go in my stage forum... And not every character has it's own stage. Characters like Rob, Ganondorf, King Dedede, Wolf, Jigglypuff, and Marth never really got a stage to call their own in Brawl. Even though for a fact Megaman should get his own stage, I'm just saying not everyone does.
Zero is a pivotal character in all the Megaman X Games, he is playable in 4-8 and Zero is the main character in Megaman Zero 1-4 and he is in a way the main character in MegamanZX and he makes an appearance as a playable character in MegamanZX advent all of these games have been on nintendo consoles ZERO HAS JUST AS MUCH OF A RIGHT TO BE IN SMASH BROS 4 AS MEGAMAN!!!!
p.s. give me a link to your forum and ill edit my post a little and put it on there
Except he doesn't... by your logic, should Pac-Man get in, then all four ghosts deserve to be playable characters as well.
Thank you.
Because really, that would've meant that Shadow would've been playable in Brawl as well. It's usually good to keep the "serious rival-ish" 3rd-party characters as Assist Trophies when their respective 3rd-party main characters make it.
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Marvelfan211
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may 31, 2009 12:20 pm
Also the ghosts would be clones, so if they were to get in, there should be one ghost with color change.
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blaziken1234
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may 31, 2009 2:55 pm
The ghosts would never get in though. Pac-man is questionable enough. Having blobs that don't do anything but move Up, Down, Left, or Right as a character in Smash Bros. would be downright... Not possible.
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Marvelfan211
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may 31, 2009 3:17 pm
Yeah, but guys can dream...
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blackfox168
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may 31, 2009 6:22 pm
hmmmmm, maybe pacman should be an assist trophie instead.
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Marvelfan211
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may 31, 2009 8:27 pm
Yeah, but Namco wouldn't pay Nintendo just for an assist throphy, they'd want the real thing, a fighter.
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theTYTAN
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may 31, 2009 11:32 pmedited by Author | may 31, 2009 11:34 pm
On 05-31-2009 06:00 am PSIFlashOmega wrote:
On 05-31-2009 01:20 am theTYTAN wrote:
On 05-30-2009 19:38 pm blaziken1234 wrote: No. It's not. Sorry. D:
And I think that Zero would make it as Megaman's Assist Trophy if he DOES make it.
Also, the stage idea should go in my stage forum... And not every character has it's own stage. Characters like Rob, Ganondorf, King Dedede, Wolf, Jigglypuff, and Marth never really got a stage to call their own in Brawl. Even though for a fact Megaman should get his own stage, I'm just saying not everyone does.
Zero is a pivotal character in all the Megaman X Games, he is playable in 4-8 and Zero is the main character in Megaman Zero 1-4 and he is in a way the main character in MegamanZX and he makes an appearance as a playable character in MegamanZX advent all of these games have been on nintendo consoles ZERO HAS JUST AS MUCH OF A RIGHT TO BE IN SMASH BROS 4 AS MEGAMAN!!!!
p.s. give me a link to your forum and ill edit my post a little and put it on there
Except he doesn't... by your logic, should Pac-Man get in, then all four ghosts deserve to be playable characters as well.
pacman would never make it in (no good moves) so thats a crap example and im not saying that every character in a good game should make it in smash bros because then wed have a whole bunch of npcs but if you've played any megaman games youd know that zero isnt just an npc and not only that but he has 4 games for the gameboy that are purely his (these games were the whole reason i bought a ds)
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theTYTAN
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may 31, 2009 11:37 pmedited by Author | jun 01, 2009 9:29 am
On 05-31-2009 15:17 pm Marvelfan211 wrote: Yeah, but guys can dream...
cant guys dream about having good characters like midna+wolflink or Zero or is that possible ?
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austin9blake
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jun 01, 2009 9:57 am
Heres a moveset for pacman:
B: pac Dot throw
B L & R: run n' bite
B up: butt bounce( move from pacman world 3)
B down: fake death( Like in the original pacman when he dies)
final smash: ghost powerup( like in the original GameThe other character turns Blue and pacman can eat them and crap them out with alot of damage!) 
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blaziken1234
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jun 01, 2009 12:36 pm
Still wouldn't work out. :/
And like I said, Zero would have to be an Assist Trophy. If every non-NPC character HAD to be playable, then characters like Lil' Mac, Lyn, Isaac, Stafy, Saki, Jill, and the others would've been playable as well... Some of them would've been better that way, but I'm saying that it just doesn't work like that.
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PSIFlashOmega
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jun 01, 2009 5:06 pm
On 05-31-2009 23:32 pm theTYTAN wrote:
On 05-31-2009 06:00 am PSIFlashOmega wrote:
Except he doesn't... by your logic, should Pac-Man get in, then all four ghosts deserve to be playable characters as well.
pacman would never make it in (no good moves) so thats a crap example and im not saying that every character in a good game should make it in smash bros because then wed have a whole bunch of npcs but if you've played any megaman games youd know that zero isnt just an npc and not only that but he has 4 games for the gameboy that are purely his (these games were the whole reason i bought a ds)
I've played the X Series. However, Zero would have no reason to be in simply because the Megaman that would get on would be the original Megaman...
However, you completely missed the point of this argument. CAPCOM is NOT a FIRST or SECOND party of Nintendo. Therefore only one character from their company has a chance of being in any Smash Bros game (assuming Sakurai, who has already said he didn't want to make another one, chances his mind) and that character is MEGAMAN. NO SECOND CHARACTER. NO ZERO...
Besides, Protoman and Bass were both better anti-hero characters anyway.
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Marvelfan211
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jun 01, 2009 6:07 pm
Zero will never get in as a fighter, and wolf link is a terrible idea.
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theTYTAN
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jun 01, 2009 6:14 pmedited by Author | jun 01, 2009 6:45 pm
On 06-01-2009 17:06 pm PSIFlashOmega wrote:
On 05-31-2009 23:32 pm theTYTAN wrote:
On 05-31-2009 06:00 am PSIFlashOmega wrote:
Except he doesn't... by your logic, should Pac-Man get in, then all four ghosts deserve to be playable characters as well.
pacman would never make it in (no good moves) so thats a crap example and im not saying that every character in a good game should make it in smash bros because then wed have a whole bunch of npcs but if you've played any megaman games youd know that zero isnt just an npc and not only that but he has 4 games for the gameboy that are purely his (these games were the whole reason i bought a ds)
I've played the X Series. However, Zero would have no reason to be in simply because the Megaman that would get on would be the original Megaman...
However, you completely missed the point of this argument. CAPCOM is NOT a FIRST or SECOND party of Nintendo. Therefore only one character from their company has a chance of being in any Smash Bros game (assuming Sakurai, who has already said he didn't want to make another one, chances his mind) and that character is MEGAMAN. NO SECOND CHARACTER. NO ZERO...
Besides, Protoman and Bass were both better anti-hero characters anyway.
had you a lick of logic or even played megaman zero 1-4 you would not say that protoman and bass were better than zero. Zero has more fighting potential than megaman protoman and bass any ways (well i suppose if you like fist based combat better than sword based combat you could say megaman has more fighting potential).
and blaziken i never said that all playable characters should get in i was just using npcs as an example of crap characters
my question to you people is why shouldnt a character with a lot of fighting potential get in the game? if they dont put in as many good (emphasis on good) characters then the game wont sell as well.
and as for the argument it just doesnt work that way? its the frickin 4th game in the series they have to change things
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Marvelfan211
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jun 01, 2009 7:05 pm
Enough about Megaman and Zero, you've been talking about them for so many pages, either get back on topic or start a forum on MegaMan and X=Zero so we can cintinue posting comments on thing that have to do with the subject.
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